{"id":8386,"date":"2022-07-02T12:00:11","date_gmt":"2022-07-02T10:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nadinewilmanns.com\/?p=8386"},"modified":"2025-03-15T21:40:46","modified_gmt":"2025-03-15T20:40:46","slug":"fashion-mie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nadinewilmanns.com\/de\/fashion-mie","title":{"rendered":"Fashion MIE"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Interview and Photography by Nadine Wilmanns<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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In Conversation with Fashion MIE Founder Marina Rajkovic <\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Fashion MIE is the name of the small boutique of Marina Rajkovic in Reutlingen\/Germany. She is selling sustainable fashion and earlier this year, I photographed the photo story of her business.<\/p>

Because I`ve studied fashion and have worked for a few fashion companies, I know how important \u2013 and how rare \u2013 sustainability and fairness are in this industry.<\/p>

That`s why I`m happy about brave people like Marina: She has turned her passion for fair fashion into her job. What`s so brave about it? Well, fashion, the industry for creative dreamers, in fact, has a dark side that is not dreamy at all: in order to compete in the ongoing battle for low prices, a lot of fashion companies tolerate or even practice the exploitation of workers and also pollution.<\/p>

To make a living with the counter-movement called \u201cslow fashion\u201d \u2013 which is ethically and sustainably produced \u2013 requires more than know-how: People in the business of slow fashion also need an extra portion of passion, commitment, and endurance. \u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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When did your interest in fashion start Marina?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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My mom worked in a textile factory and was given fabrics with faults for her own use. With those fabrics, I went to my neighbour in our holiday home in Croatia. She was a seamstress, and my first tailored skirt was the highlight of the holiday. As a kid, I wanted to become a fashion designer and I loved drawing garments that I copied from fashion catalogues. However, I then started working in a commercial job that didn\u2019t have anything to do with fashion.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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” I thought, there should be more \u201egreen shopping oases\u201c\u2013 and not just in big cities like Berlin or Hamburg but also in towns.”\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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And how did you find your way to fashion as your job? <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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When I started a position in a company that produced knitting machines, all of a sudden there was a connection to fashion again. The idea of wanting to do something with fashion started being on my mind again. When choosing my wardrobe, I always cared about where my garments are from and how they are made. I thought there should be more \u201egreen shopping oases\u201c\u2013 not just in big cities like Berlin or Hamburg but also in towns like Reutlingen. After all, there are so many talented people having small productions that are in need of a platform. \u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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And that`s when you opened your own green Shopping oasis Fashion MIE? That`s pretty brave considering that you had a secure job in the commercial sector\u2026 <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Well, the idea of opening my own concept store wasn`t there right from the start. Originally, I just wanted to be the middleman between local shops and fair fashion labels. But I didn`t want to have my own store. I wanted to establish green shopping zones\u00a0 \u2013 for example a clothes rail full of fair fashion in a store of an optician. There are so many great sustainable products. I wanted to show that you don`t necessarily need to order them online.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Wow how smart! That means you don`t have to be on-site in person to sell your products... And how was this idea received?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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It was difficult to find open-minded partners among the rather conventional retailers \u2013 especially during the pandemic. The owner of a furniture upcycling studio heard about my idea and suggested that I should start a green shopping zone in her shop. I started with one rail of clothes as a side hustle – and slowly my range of goods increased. The upcycling furniture business grew also and planned to move to bigger premises. So, I had to ask myself: What do I do? So, I stay in this place and open my own store?<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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So it was only then that you decided to open your very own concept store? <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Yes, because meanwhile I had such lovely regular customers \u2013 and generally people got more and more interested in sustainable fashion. Of course, there was the pandemic and I couldn`t quite anticipate how my business would develop. But I knew: I don`t want to give up on it. And today I have my own registered trade name and sign patented.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Congratulations! Oh, by the way: What does Fashion MIE stand for? <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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MIE stands for Made in Europe. Because in regards to sustainability I find it important that routes of transport are short.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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When you turned your dream of your own fashion store into reality, you probably had a lot of hopes, expectations and maybe also fears. What has turned out as expected and what has surprised you?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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What I found confirmed is: When you meet people with honesty \u2013 especially when giving advice \u2013 you will get so much back, for example, empathy. That kept me motivated and that helped me in the pandemic when I often felt devastated. There were customers that came on a regular basis and be it just to buy a little something. Customers that brought me an ice cream or chocolate \u2013 just like that. Once there were customers stopping by who brought me a croissant \u2013 they didn`t even want to buy anything on that day, but just passed my store. Those are moments that make me think: Wow I`ve done it right. That has given me a lot of strength when there were difficult times. \u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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And were there things that you had expected to be different?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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I underestimated that having a business on my own is so much work that it`s hardly possible to manage it all on my own \u2013 especially as I want to be present online and offline. There are so many areas \u2013 accounting, IT, marketing, \u2026 Sometimes I feel like I`m all in one, but of course, it`s not possible and also I don`t know everything in all these different areas. So in some areas, I have looked for help \u2013 there is a student working for me, a temporary employee to help out, and a graphic designer on demand \u2013 and also my family helps out at times.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Often people say about these creative fashionable jobs: a nice dream but in reality, when it`s about making a living it`s difficult. What has kept you going? <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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You need to have a true passion for what you do. And it has always been a big motivation that I can be as creative as I want to be now. I couldn`t work this creatively in my old job. I have so many ideas that I want to put into action \u2013 sometimes I think: How is that even possible in my one single life? Another thing that has been keeping me motivated is the feedback that I receive. I sometimes think that I should do some things better or in a more professional way. Yet so often people praise my work even though it\u2019s not always all perfect.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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What have been the biggest learning experiences so far during your time as self-employed? <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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It`s important for me to have regular breaks. I have set the intention and already put it into practice to get help when needed. Also, I consult with my family and friends and ask for feedback. Very helpful for starting out was the consulting for start-ups: I got insights that I haven\u00b4t had before, could organize myself, and received a basic plan for my journey \u2013 which I can still adjust on the way.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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The online shop of fashion MIE can be found on www.fashionmie.de<\/a><\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Fashion MIE- Gr\u00fcnderin Marina Rajkovic<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Fashion Mie hei\u00dft die kleine Boutique von Marina Rajkovic in Reutlingen. Sie verkauft hier nachhaltige Mode und vor kurzem habe ich die Foto-Story ihres Ladens fotografiert.<\/p>

Da ich Mode studiert und einige Jahre f\u00fcr Modeunternehmen gearbeitet habe, wei\u00df ich, wie wichtig \u2013 und wie wenig selbstverst\u00e4ndlich \u2013 Nachhaltigkeit und Fairness in der Modebranche sind.<\/p>

Umso mehr freue ich mich \u00fcber mutige Menschen wie Marina: Sie hat ihre Herzensangelegenheit Faire Mode zum Beruf gemacht. Was daran mutig ist? Mode, die Branche der kreativen Tr\u00e4umer, hat eine Seite, die leider gar nicht zum Tr\u00e4umen einl\u00e4dt: um im Preiskampf mit der gro\u00dfen Konkurrenz mithalten zu k\u00f6nnen, nehmen viele Mode-Unternehmen extreme Mitarbeiter-Ausbeutung und gro\u00dfe Umwelts\u00fcnden in Kauf.<\/p>

Um sich mit der Gegenbewegung \u201eSlow Fashion\u201c \u2013 fair und nachhaltig produziert – auf dem Markt behaupten zu k\u00f6nnen, ist mehr als Knowhow gefragt: Leute, die im Slow Fashion Business sind, brauchen au\u00dferdem eine Extraportion Leidenschaft, Engagement und Durchhalteverm\u00f6gen.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Wann hast du dein Interesse f\u00fcr Mode entwickelt Marina?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Meine Mutter hat in einer Textilfabrik gearbeitet und durfte fehlerhafte Stoffe mit nach Hause nehmen. Damit bin ich als Sechsj\u00e4hrige im Urlaub in Kroatien zu unserer dortigen Nachbarin gegangen, die Schneiderin war. Mein erster ma\u00dfgeschneiderter Rock war das Highlight dieses Urlaubs. Als Kind wollte ich Modedesignerin werden und habe es geliebt, Kleider aus Modekatalogen abzuzeichnen. Dann habe ich aber doch einen kaufm\u00e4nnischen Beruf gelernt und war erstmal eine Zeitlang von der Mode weg.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Und wie hast du dann deinen Weg zur Mode als Beruf gefunden?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Als ich eine Stelle \u2013 auch im kaufm\u00e4nnischen Bereich \u2013 bei der Firma Stoll angetreten habe, die Flachstrickmaschinen produzieren, war ich pl\u00f6tzlich wieder indirekt im Thema Mode drin und die Idee, etwas mit Mode zu machen, hat sich wieder bei mir eingenistet. Privat habe ich schon immer darauf geachtet, woher meine Kleidung kommt und wie sie verarbeitet ist. Ich habe mir \u00fcberlegt, dass es viel mehr gr\u00fcne Einkaufs-Oasen geben sollte \u2013 nicht nur in gro\u00dfen St\u00e4dten wie Hamburg oder Berlin, sondern auch in kleinen St\u00e4dten wie Reutlingen. Schlie\u00dflich gibt es so viele talentierte Leute mit kleinen Manufakturen, die eine Plattform brauchen.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Und dann hast du kurzerhand deine eigene gr\u00fcne Einkaufs-Oase Fashion MIE er\u00f6ffnet? Das ist aber mutig aus der sicheren Stelle im kaufm\u00e4nnischen Bereich in die Mode-Selbst\u00e4ndigkeit zu wechseln.<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Also, die Idee einen Concept Store zu er\u00f6ffnen war am Anfang noch gar nicht da. Urspr\u00fcnglich wollte ich nur Schnittstelle sein zwischen Locations vor Ort und Fair Fashion Labels, aber nicht mit einem eigenen Store vertreten sein. Das hei\u00dft, ich wollte gr\u00fcne Einkaufszonen in Reutlingen und Umgebung einrichten \u2013 beispielsweise ein Kleiderst\u00e4nder mit fairer Mode im Laden eines Optikers. Es gibt so viele tolle nachhaltige Produkte und ich wollte zeigen, dass man sie nicht immer \u00fcbers Internet bestellen muss. Mit dieser Idee habe ich bei einem Start-up Programm, den \u201eTextil Accelerator \u2013 Stoff im Kopf\u201c<\/a> der Hochschule Reutlingen, mitgemacht.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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“Ich habe mir \u00fcberlegt, dass es viel mehr gr\u00fcne Einkaufs-Oasen geben sollte \u2013 nicht nur in gro\u00dfen St\u00e4dten wie Hamburg oder Berlin, sondern auch in kleinen St\u00e4dten wie Reutlingen. “<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Wow, wie gut \u00fcberlegt! So musst du selbst f\u00fcr den Verkauf nicht vor Ort sein\u2026 Und wie kam das an?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Es war schwierig, im doch sehr konventionellen Einzelhandel Partner zu finden, die offen f\u00fcr diese Idee waren \u2013 noch dazu in der Corona-Pandemie. Die Inhaberin eines Upcycling-M\u00f6belateliers, bei der ich selbst Kundin bin, hat von meiner Idee geh\u00f6rt und mir vorgeschlagen, bei ihr eine gr\u00fcne Einkaufszone einzurichten. Ich habe nebenberuflich mit einem Kleiderst\u00e4nder begonnen und bald ist das Sortiment gewachsen. Auch das Upcycling Atelier hat sich vergr\u00f6\u00dfert und beschloss den Umzug in einen gr\u00f6\u00dferen Laden. Dann kam die Frage auf: Bleibe ich hier diesen R\u00e4umen und starte meinen eigenen Store?<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Erst da hast du dich also entschieden, den Concept Store zu er\u00f6ffnen?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Ja, denn inzwischen hatte ich so nette und tolle Stammkunden bekommen – und \u00fcberhaupt sind die Leute neugierig auf nachhaltige Mode geworden. Es kam zwar die Corona-Pandemie dazwischen und ich konnte nicht richtig einsch\u00e4tzen, in welche Richtung sich mein Gesch\u00e4ft entwickeln w\u00fcrde. Aber mir war klar: Ich m\u00f6chte es nicht aufgeben. Und heute habe ich vom Patent- und Markenamt meine eingetragene Wort- und Bildmarke bekommen.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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Gl\u00fcckwunsch! Ah, apropos: F\u00fcr was steht denn MIE in Fashion MIE eigentlich?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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MIE steht f\u00fcr Made in Europe. Denn kurze Transportwege finde ich wichtig in Bezug auf Nachhaltigkeit.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Als du deinen Traum \u201eeigener Modeladen\u201c verwirklicht hast, hattest du bestimmt viele Hoffnungen, Erwartungen, vielleicht auch Bef\u00fcrchtungen. Was hat dich \u00fcberrascht und was hat sich best\u00e4tigt?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Best\u00e4tigt hat sich: wenn man den Leuten mit Ehrlichkeit begegnet, auch bei der Beratung, dass man dann so viel zur\u00fcckbekommt, auch an Empathie. Das hat mich sehr motiviert und war vor allem w\u00e4hrend der Corona-Krise so wichtig, als ich manchmal am Boden zerst\u00f6rt war. Da waren Kundinnen, die immer wieder kamen und sei es f\u00fcr eine Kleinigkeit. Kunden, die mir ein Eis oder eine Schokolade mitgebracht haben \u2013 einfach so. Einmal haben mir Kunden einfach so ein Croissant vorbeigebracht \u2013 die wollten an dem Tag gar nichts kaufen, sondern sind einfach nur an meinem Laden vorbeigekommen. Das sind Momente, in denen ich denke: `Wow, du hast es richtig gemacht`. Das hat mir w\u00e4hrend schwierigen Zeiten innere St\u00e4rke gegeben.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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Und gab es auch Dinge, die du so nicht erwartet h\u00e4ttest?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Ich habe untersch\u00e4tzt, dass ein eigenes Unternehmen so viel Arbeit ist, dass man es allein kaum schafft \u2013 vor allem wenn man online und offline pr\u00e4sent sein will. Es gibt so viele Bereiche \u2013 Buchhaltung, IT, Marketing, \u2026 Manchmal habe ich das Gef\u00fchl, ich bin alles in einem, aber man kann nat\u00fcrlich nicht alles selbst machen und man wei\u00df ja auch nicht alles. Da braucht man in manchen Bereichen einfach Unterst\u00fctzung. Inzwischen habe ich daher eine Werkstudentin, besch\u00e4ftige eine Aushilfe, bei Bedarf eine Grafikerin und auch die Familie hilft manchmal mit.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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Gerade den kreativen Modeberufen sagt man oft nach: ein sch\u00f6ner Traum, aber in der Realit\u00e4t, wenn`s um den Lebensunterhalt geht, schwierig. Was hat dich motiviert, durchzuhalten?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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Man muss echte Leidenschaft f\u00fcr das Thema mitbringen. Und was mich immer motiviert, ist, dass ich hier so kreativ sein kann, wie ich m\u00f6chte. Das konnte ich in meinem alten Job nicht. Ich habe so viele Ideen, die ich umsetzen m\u00f6chte – manchmal denke ich: wie schaffe ich das in meinem einzigen Leben? Eine gro\u00dfe Motivation ist auch das Feedback, das ich bekomme: Zwar denke ich manchmal, dass ich manches besser oder professioneller machen k\u00f6nnte \u2013 und trotzdem bekomme ich so viel Lob, auch wenn nicht immer alles perfekt ist.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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Was waren f\u00fcr dich bisher die wichtigsten Lernerfahrungen in deiner Selbst\u00e4ndigkeit?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t
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F\u00fcr mich ist wichtig, dass ich mir immer wieder auch Pausen g\u00f6nne. Ich habe mir fest vorgenommen und setze es inzwischen auch schon um, dass ich mir Hilfe hole, wenn es nicht mehr geht. Dass ich mich mit der Familie und mit Freunden bespreche, um Feedback zu bekommen. Und sehr hilfreich bei der Gr\u00fcndung fand ich die Existenzberatung: man bekommt Einblicke, die man vorher nicht hatte, kann sich sortieren und bekommt ein Grundger\u00fcst f\u00fcr den eigenen Weg \u2013 und man kann dann immer noch nach rechts oder links abweichen.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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